SongClash – Battle Of The Bands Go Social

SongClash - Online Battle of the Bands

Today we are talking with Juan Cross of SongClash.com, a new community all about empowering fans to find new music through competitions. The site is starting to take off with over 400 indie musicians all over the world and has even been featured over at CSS Elite as one of the Best of the Best CSS websites.

Greg: So first, tell us a little about the why? What was the need in the market and what are you doing to serve it?

SongClash: There is a lot of music out there. The web has created a massive sea of music. The why for us is also a question. How does a music fan find songs that mean something to them throughout that sea of music? It’s more than finding a needle in a haystack out there.

The need is a music filtering platform that allows music fans to find these songs, or band/artists. SongClash does just that for the music fan and our platform allows direct fan to artist connection. Music fans want to know who these bands/artists are. What are they doing…a virtual friendship.

Greg: What can bands expect from the platform?

SongClash:Bands/Artists can expect the best at our site. Our platform is easy to use, easy to navigate and completely user friendly. Our platform concepts are determined by the need of our members.

On SongClash, is very easy to upload and add music to the ongoing monthly battles, users can “Tweet” songs from the bands/artists profile or from the battle sections and more. We are also working on a streaming service that will reward bands/artists. Soon after, we will launch our SongClash iPhone app and Facebook app as well.

Artists Services – for serious bands/artists we are implementing artists marketing services from Social Media to good ole Grassroots networking.

The platform is continuously expanding with new features and strategic partnerships.

Greg: How important is competition to an upcoming act? For me, feedback is key. Most just get feedback from friends, so really seeing what others think of your music is crucial. If you are in this business to make money, you are playing for your fans.

SongClash: For every band/artists, this is an extremely important part of what they do. How else can they know that their music career direction is headed the right way? Music fans and users on SongClash are always welcome to speak the truth, being a positive truth. Besides SongClash lending an ear to bands/artists out there, we have artist reviews by well know industry professionals.

Bands/artists need to know where they stand against their competition and most importantly, against those who will ultimately support their careers – music fans.

Greg: What are some of the prizes and incentives to getting involved in the battles and the site?

SongClash: The incentives will include cash, gift cards, record studio opportunities, artist reviews by industry pros, premium opportunities give a ways, video promotions, live event opportunities and plenty more…and the ultimate goal, our very own Music Label opportunity.

We are more than a website, so our brand will expand into external regional, national and annual festival events.

Greg: How does the site integrate with other social networks? Are there ways to share on other networks, grow virally, vote through widgets, etc.

SongClash: We are integrated with Twitter. Since Twitter is being integrated through Facebook and other networks, we thought using Twitter would be the most ideal network to use.

Our monthly battles artist preview pages provide every band/artists with song badges. These badges can be placed on personal sites or editable HTML networking sites like Myspace and other sites.

Greg: As you guys just went live, what can we expect as you grow?

SongClash: We just partnered with Ping Pong Music to start the SongClash & Ping Pong Music label. We will be on the look out for bands/artists that rise on SongClash. We have a tremendous team behind the label that, once we discover the “diamond in the ruff”. We have an incredible array of artist development, marketing and management services. Details to that will soon be here.

We have other amazing partnerships in the works that will enhance the user experience at SongClash greatly.

Greg: Where can we find you online to connect?

SongClash: Besides googling SongClash, all of our networks include the SongClash name.

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I’d love for you to check out SongClash if you are looking for feedback on your music, trying to build a fan base that is engaged with indie music or have another outlet for your music. You can signup here as a fan, as a musician or check out their premium levels to get more exposure on the site and throughout their network.

These guys have been working on the site for about 2 years now and I am really proud of what Juan and his team have been able to do in that time frame. They have a great vision and a heart for indie music as they are indie musicians themselves.

If you have questions about the platform, leave them below in the comments and I’ll make sure to pass them onto Juan and the SG team.

-Greg

Daddy X On Fan Relationships

Last week I ran a story on the Kottonmouth Kings and their Pre-Launch strategy. I reached out to the man behind Suburban Noize Records, Brad “Daddy X” to talk about their relationship with their fans as well as how they determine their price points and the power of engagement. Below is what he had to say:

GYRS: You guys have always placed a premium on rewarding fans that take action early through pre-ordering. What is the affect of taking care
of your fans that are so vested in the KMK and Subnoize brand?

x: We have always strived to maintain a special connection to our core fanbase, the preorder packages give the fans a chance to get product and variations of a release that retail stores don’t offer. There is also an upside for subnoize , we sell direct to customer without a middle man. The fans take pride in knowing that thier purchase directly supports the band & the label.

On a good pre-order we can cover a lot of our costs associated with the release. So it’s a win ,win,for the label and artist.

GYRS: You have used 3 videos in the pre-launch process – Stomp/Rampage, Mushrooms and Let’s Go. What are your goals with the videos and what impact do they have on the brand?

x: Video has always been a strong tool for promoting songs and records. We know that our videos are not gonna be played on MTV so we don’t spend alot of money making videos. We just try to get creative and use our own resources. It is guerilla filming for sure. We use a lot of the Internet outlets and website to get videos viewed. Videos will also pop up on bonus or compilation DVDs we release.

GYRS: Typically, what % of sales come from the pre-launch/pre-order vs traditional sales? Are you expecting anything different this go around?

x: It really varies, but maybe 5 percent of total sales, on a record. That is in an albums duration, that percentage is higher on opening week.

GYRS: You have 4 tiers of products in the pre-launch. How did you get to the levels and why did you choose those price points?

x: We sit in a room with the subnoize staff and evryone puts in ideas. We run prices and all agree on interesting packages. We try to give alot of value to the customer, we understand the state of our economy, so we try to incentivize our fans with great value. Plus you can never put a price tag on the pride and personal connection that fan has to the band!

GYRS: How important is online fan engagement to the success of KMK today - from ustream to Twitter, Facebook and other channels?

x: I would say our strongest marketing tool is social networking sites. Word of mouth is still our biggest asset! It is real grass roots marketing, we do use commercial marketing campaigns also (commercials, radio & television, magazines, websites ect..that raises awareness but word of mouth is the key!

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GYRS: What is the goal of the membership site past this initial release? Are you looking at recurring revenue, increasing engagement with “super fans” or building something bigger?

x: we have been talking about the premium membership site for a while. We just launched kingklick.com for premium and fan club members. It is just a site to get more personal and exclusive content that does not exist on our main sites. We hope to grow it into something really special, it is in it’s infant stages right now! Our goal is to generate revenue with the site as well as stoking out our members.

GYRS: Anything else you want to add about the new record and the way you are releasing it?

x: Long Live The Kings is in stores everywhere with different bonus discs and songs. Subnoize has one set of songs, Best Buy has another and iTunes has another. We recorded 45 songs so you can find them all if you look hard enough!

If you want to learn more about the Kings, check out:

-Greg

Note from Greg (Checking their site, they have launched 2 more videos on April 22nd, 2 days after the release. That is a total of 5 videos that are all of high quality, in addition to 45 songs, plus the pre-order specials. What are you doing that even comes remotely close to this?)

Today’s A&R – A Conversation With Alex Wilhelm

Looking at the music industry today and the new artists that are breaking through, there is really only one consistent theme that surrounds them all – they have been featured before they inked the deal on Crazed Hits. I have been reading Alex’s site really since it went online in Feb ’08 and over the years I have learned about acts, hit singles and songwriters months, if not years, before Ryan Seacrest gets to blab about them on his radio shows.

Over the years Alex has featured over 100 artists, bands and songwriters that have signed with major and indie labels before the pen dried and some have gone on to gain major international exposure (Drake, LMFAO, Owl City, etc).

I reached out to Alex to have a quick conversation on discovering new artists, how he got his start (he’s still a young gun) and what artists can do to get their music into his headphones. Check out the full conversation below:

Greg: How did you get involved in the A&R game and looking at such an amazing track record at such a young age?

Alex: I always loved music. I started out playing in bands when I was younger and always enjoyed searching for up and coming artists online. Prior to starting Crazed Hits, I found i.e. Katy Perry, One Republic and Colbie Caillat before they had record deals. In early 2008 I decided to start a website where I’d post the best unsigned artists that I came across. That’s how it all started.

I had absolutely no idea how to design or run a website. I spent a few days figuring it all out and then launched Crazed Hits on a $150 budget out of my bedroom in Germany. At that point, I was 22 and had absolutely no connections to anyone in the music business. I never worked at a label or any other music company before. I was probably as far removed from “the scene” in Los Angeles and New York as anyone could be.

Crazed Hits quickly created a buzz in the music industry and the thing that really made people pay attention was when I found BC Jean, who was back then without a record and publishing deal. One of her tracks really stood out – it was called called “If I Were A Boy.” I instantly freaked out and put it on my website. A few months later Beyoncè recorded it and the song became her biggest single to date.

I ended up finding more hit artists and writers such as Owl City, Kesha, Drake, Kid Cudi, LMFAO, and the website kept getting bigger and more influential.

Greg: I’m sure you found out about artists in a bunch of different directions. What are some of the more common ways that breakthrough artists end up in your inbox or on your radar?

Alex: I have developed a nice little scouting system. If an artist is making noise, it will definitely pop up on my radar. When I first started out I had absolutely no industry contacts, so all I could do is rely on myself and just go out there and find the best unsigned artists. That’s still how I do it today. A lot of people submit music to me, but the best stuff are usually things that I find on my own.

Greg: How important is online buzz to a label and what metrics are they really looking at? We always breach tangible things like email subscribers or PollStar stats, but that may not be the end all of what a label is looking for?

Alex: It really depends on the label and their philosophy. Some labels sign most of their artists based on research and numbers. There are signings happening where the artist has absolutely no traction, but that’s definitely the exception.

Usually, the label wants the artist to have some level of success on his/her own before signing it. They want to see anything from digital sales, to MySpace plays/friends, YouTube Views, TV synchs, and sold-out live shows. Having a well-known and established manager, producer and/or attorney on your team can help a lot too!

Greg: Are you familiar with the types of deals most artists are signing in 2010?

Alex: It’s very very hard to generalize. Every deal looks different, but it’s usually a 360 deal with little upfront money. A lot of singles deals are happening too, where the label invests a little bit of money and only commits to releasing one single.

Greg: Honestly, how important is the music vs. the buzz or commerciality of an artist looking for a major deal in today’s environment?

Alex: Again, it really depends on the label and their philosophy. Generally speaking, the more you bring to the table, the better your chances of getting signed, and the more clout you have when it comes to negotiating.

Greg: Going along those lines, is the album as important as the single – I know you typically pinpoint the go-to song for a new act on your site. Where should the focus be for a new artist?

Alex: The focus should be on writing great music and putting together an “artist pitch” that makes sense. Those are the most important things. After that, you need to focus on marketing your music and developing a fanbase.

Having one hit single is not enough. You need to deliver a body of work that showcases who you are and makes people attach to you!

Greg: We’ll close with this one…of all the acts that have gone through Crazed Hits and had a deal, how many have broke with huge singles/albums vs the number that have yet to release anything significant? Is there any pattern or telling sign as to why some have success and why the others never take off like they planned?

Alex: Most of the artists that got signed off of Crazed Hits have yet to release an album or single. The ones who have already put out a single and/or album have done really well (i.e. Owl City, Kid Cudi, Drake, Kesha, LMFAO).

There is definitely a strong pattern as to why certain artists work and have success. It all comes down to making people care! You accomplish that by being unique and showcasing your personality through your music, photos, videos, etc. You need to have an identity and stand for something! My analysis of Owl City elaborates on this.

Greg: Thanks to Alex for hanging out with us today and if you would like to check out what he is doing and the acts he is covering, you can stalk him here:

Social Media Marketing Etiquette With Tamar Weinberg

Tamar WeinbergLast week I got to catch up with one of my favorite voices in social media, Tamar Weinberg. I met Tamar at IZEA Fest in Orlando back in 2008. We ended up at lunch sitting together in a large group and ended up talking about blogging, Digg and how Twitter was blowing up. Tamar is a super cool chick that gets to work on some killer campaigns, writes an amazing blog called Techipedia and has written the definitive how-to book on social media, The New Community Rules.

Below is a really fun and laid back interview we did on social media rules for musicians. In the 18-minute iPod ready chat we look at the fine line between promoting and SPAM, how to start getting consistent with your content and how to pitch bloggers to promote your stuff. Digest, download and take notes folks. Tamar is ahead of the game and I’m glad we got to chalk it up for you.

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To thank Tamar for hanging out with us at Gen-Y Rock Stars, we are going to be giving out a copy of The New Community Rules. This book is filled with case studies of what to-do with social media. We eluded in the audio about the similarities between the way that companies and artists should be marketing themselves with social media and this book will get your mind spinning with ideas to help promo your music.

To win the copy all you need to do is tell us in the comments what your biggest roadblock to getting fully engaged with social media is? And if you are already engaged, just tell us about what you are doing with social media to help promote and market your music. The best comment wins the book. I’ll pick the winner on Friday April 2nd sometime around 5pm EST.

If you want to beat the crowd and grab the hard copy on your own, head on over to Amazon and scoop it up!

Thanks for listening.

-Greg

(oh and as with nearly every promotional link, you should assume those are affiliate links, which they are. They help feed the staff.)

Experience on Networking: Interview with Georgia Wonder

georgia wonderIt’s always helpful knowing how musicians view the music industry and how they use their understanding to prosper. I was given the opportunity to interview the English duo, Georgia Wonder, on their musical pursuits and tricks of the trade. They had insightful things to offer:

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Zach: Georgia Wonder’s social networking is evident in their persistent Twitter postings, mailing subscribers and visual updates. Is there a preferred form of networking that you favor more or find more efficient and effective that connects you to your fan base more than another form of networking? Similarly, is there a form of networking that you prefer, as a music fan, when trying to find out about musicians you like?

Georgia Wonder: More and more you read about the idea that the ‘email list’ is the most important thing to a band, and that collecting subscriptions is the ultimate form of connection you can create with your fans. We don’t necessary disagree with this, but the reality about people is that they will connect in the ways they want to connect. We all know there are ‘lurkers’ on forums, facebook pages and on things like twitter who never ever interact with anyone, but keep an eye out for new stuff. And the beauty of the internet is that there are now so many ways to communicate with other people. So if you had more fans on your facebook fan page than you did on your mailing list, does that mean you’re less popular? If you have 2500 followers on Twitter but you bore them all to tears, will they bother with what you’re on about, or just lose it in the mass of other messages? What we’re trying to say here is it’s very hard to join up the dots with your ‘reach’ – and email is becoming more and more irrelevant for the more social aspects of networking. People are checking their facebook as much as they used to check their email, and most people’s email inboxes are a total mess. Don’t discount anything and be prepared for all technologies to become obsolete in the near future.

At the moment there is a big gap in the market for music discovery on the internet – no one has really cracked it. We have the access with YouTube, Spotify, We7 and various other services, but as far as discovering new music is concerned I don’t think there’s anything out there that’s really fun and engaging that rewards people for actually looking for new music. I know there are things like Last.FM and Pandora which recommend things to you, but there is definitely something missing. It’s almost like we need the Rotten Tomatoes (film site) for music combined with something fun like a Facebook game to get people to actually engage with music they wouldn’t otherwise hear in a new way.

Z: All valid points, especially the point that people will connect in their own preferred way.

Georgia Wonder has been working on and promoting for some new material. Has the duo learned or changed its marketing techniques throughout its musical experience? If so, how would you describe the progress of your thoughts about marketing your music?

GW: You need to stay up to date with all the latest happenings with the internet and music, which is easy with sites like Mashable, Techdirt, Hypebot, and to some extent Boing Boing. But it’s easy to fall into the trap of fad based promotions. I think bands need to focus on creating stories that work away from the internet, that are real and tangible in their own right, and then use the internet to tell the story in many different places and ways. Our ‘Made In Nevada’ project is our attempt to record our entire new album in our local music store. This is a real thing we’re doing in the real world. But we’re blogging about it, creating videos for each song as well as ‘how we did it’ videos, talking about it on Facebook, Twitter and on our own Forum as well as using traditional press releases and other print and PR media to spread the word. A band’s current story could be based entirely on the internet which is fine, but although it’s tempting to do something gimmicky there is a new kind of one-hit-wonder nowadays – the video viral. Although we love cool, crazy and fun stuff like the rest of the planet, we think you should still try and plot a musical course rather than a here-today gone-tomorrow mentality. It may take longer, but it could be worth it. People are quick to point to viral stuff and go ‘see, that’s what you should be doing!’ but there seems to be little evidence of that kind of thing becoming a dependable long term strategy for success. And by long term how about more than five years?

Z: Much agreed. I think the long-term efforts are so difficult to give attention to these days – in our immediate lifestyles and culture.

You’ve been promoting your new song “No Credit” through various types of media, one being videos documenting your experience in the studio. You are recording your new album within the Nevada Music Center in the U.K., how would you describe your recording experience over the years? Have you recorded in the same studios? If not, have you discovered or changed anything new while working within different studios that you may not have picked up on earlier?

GW: Most of our stuff previously has been recorded at home, with the exception of drums when we’ve needed them. We were fortunate when we first started out that our very cool local music studio The Old Blacksmiths helped us out with a fair bit of studio time when we first met them. However, this didn’t solve the musical instrument problem, which of course using the music store does! It’s true you can get good results at home and recording has never been cheaper – however, creating something world class is something else.

We do get a bit tired of people saying it’s easy nowadays and great stuff can be recorded for peanuts at home. Well, it’s partly true, but in all honestly we all have far higher expectations when we listen to music nowadays than I think we give ourselves credit for as fans and bands. And more often than not, that quality can not be done on a budget of next to nothing with no facilities. You need guitars that aren’t crap, microphones that are better than your Skype headset and keyboards, synths and all other manner of stuff to get the job done. And let’s not forget you need the time to do it, and the money to make sure people involved aren’t starving.

Z: Indeed, the hyper-quality of music seems to be more expected and sometimes less appreciated the more we have access to more music.

For musicians, finding a balance in the quality of their product and the satisfaction of their work ethic can be tricky these days. Moving along. Reading up on your discography, I noticed you have two EPs out consisting of 5 songs each. Did you plan on this intentionally with any strategies in mind? How did you decided on this kind of model for your release?

GW: We think that recording tracks in bundles of five is far more true to the way we work than creating ten songs in one go and releasing them all at once. Also five songs feels like a body of work – it’s rare that in one period of time you can have a writing run of ten songs which all feel like they come from the same place. Five feels right. And didn’t LPs once have two sides of four to five tracks each? An EP is like the side of a long play record. We like that.

On the other hand we have our ‘Made In Nevada’ project which is an album project, but we’re recording as we go, releasing each track when it’s ready. This is great because it makes us focus on getting one track out at a time and tell the story as we go. We just released ‘No Credit’ – the first song from the project. We’re nearly ready with the second track and we’ve been working on the third, and have some idea of the fourth, fifth and so on. At the end of the project we’ll look over all the songs, assemble them into a good order and then release the physical copy of the album, as well as have the chance to add anything we thought was missing or think of when we’ve had a little distance from some of the material.

So strangely, our marketing for our first album is to release it as a series of singles! A rolling release. Feels good.

Z: I think your understanding of short, yet fully-embodied releases is a great method for today’s music industry. It’s a great way to adapt to how audiences consume and listen to music these days.

If you’re interested in finding out more about Georgia Wonder and checking them out you can visit their website or their ‘Made in Nevada’ website.